Tuesday, June 23, 2009

women/mothers are more attentive to the spiritual than men/fathers.


That it's more often women than men who decide to involve their family in a church and/or assume the responsibiliy to follow thru with that commitment.

Why do you ask?
Joe Baumgarten
 Joe Baumgarten
Curiosity. It's a quote from someone in leadership. Who is it that gave men permission to not be "spiritual?" This is an issue God's been working on in my head and heart.
Joe Baumgarten
 Joe Baumgarten
or is it that men are spiritual on a different level or wavelength and we have forgotten that?
I think people tend to equate spiritual with church involvement... this muddies the waters
To some, the two are one in the same. No muddy water here.
Joe, to answer your follow-up questions... I don't think men are considered off the hook to be spiritual beings. Maybe there is something to your speculation that men are spiritual in different ways. I just think women have taken the lead for so long that some men have just become comfortable with their secondary role.
I think women/mothers feel the need to be a part of a church in order to be valitaded and try to show themselves and their children that there is a world around them that shares the faith
Joe Baumgarten
 Joe Baumgarten
great discussion, keep going. I agree with Andy in that people feel by serving the church they are serving God. While for some this may be where their gifts are used, but not necessarily. I also agree that men have in many areas of the church fallen into a complacency created by women filling the vacuum left when men stepped down. That may be a chicken and the egg thing, which happened first? For Danielle or MIke, is the social network replacing the spiritual side of fellowship?
I work with Community Theater. We always have more women available for involvement than men.... is this a spiritual thing? Again, I would submit that one can easily mistake scheduling availability ... with spirituality. Also, I think it is a mistake to assume that all spiritual things are tied to the church. People always say that 20 percent of... Read More
Joe Baumgarten
 Joe Baumgarten
I'm with you. An us vs them or a he vs. she approach is asking for trouble. However, I think there is a distinct male/female design for a spiritual life. The church has since the 60's catered to a feminine spiritual approach that has discounted, discouraged and disenfranchised a majority of men from service in the church.
Joe Baumgarten
 Joe Baumgarten
maybe I read too much into the statement in the first place...
I think people can take and interpret a statement like that in a lot of different ways.... that's why I think it should generate a discussion rather than a conclusion.
Joe Baumgarten
 Joe Baumgarten
and I love the discussion.

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  1. Feel free to put my name in there if it would help with continuity. :)

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